Wednesday, December 3, 2008
Hold or Sell?
There's a discussion going on in our Just Covered Calls Yahoo group about the pros and cons of holding a position that has declined in value vs selling at a loss and moving on to establish a new position.
Let me explain my views on this by using Ben Graham's concept of Mr. Market.
Let's say you own a private company that is fundamentally sound and produces enough free cash flow, after expenses, every year, which provides sufficient income for you to live comfortably.
Enter Mr. Market, a manic depressive who suffers from extreme highs and extreme lows. Each day, he comes to your office and offers to buy your company. On his extreme high days, he's feeling very optimistic and offers to buy your company at a very high price. On his extreme low days, he's feeling very pessimistic and offers to buy your company at a very low price.
Now, obviously, if he's offering a very high price, especially one that compensates you for the companys future cash flow potential, you might accept his offer. However, if he offers you a very low price, what would you do? Would you sell at a loss and start a new company? Or would you reject his offer, knowing that your company will still provide you with sufficient income? I bet you'll probably reject his low offer. Since the company is meeting your income requirements, this provides you the luxury of holding out for a better price.
Investing in stocks, using an income model (see previous article), is no different, since stock represents partial ownership in a company.
Let me explain my views on this by using Ben Graham's concept of Mr. Market.
Let's say you own a private company that is fundamentally sound and produces enough free cash flow, after expenses, every year, which provides sufficient income for you to live comfortably.
Enter Mr. Market, a manic depressive who suffers from extreme highs and extreme lows. Each day, he comes to your office and offers to buy your company. On his extreme high days, he's feeling very optimistic and offers to buy your company at a very high price. On his extreme low days, he's feeling very pessimistic and offers to buy your company at a very low price.
Now, obviously, if he's offering a very high price, especially one that compensates you for the companys future cash flow potential, you might accept his offer. However, if he offers you a very low price, what would you do? Would you sell at a loss and start a new company? Or would you reject his offer, knowing that your company will still provide you with sufficient income? I bet you'll probably reject his low offer. Since the company is meeting your income requirements, this provides you the luxury of holding out for a better price.
Investing in stocks, using an income model (see previous article), is no different, since stock represents partial ownership in a company.
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4 comments:
CCWriter,
Do you use any margin in your account?
No, I trade in an IRA account which is not allowed to use margin.
ccwriter,
Sorry for this question.
I just want to make sure. I have an IB account. To write a covered call do I do the following steps?
1) Buy 100 shares of stock XYZ the normal way. i.e. market or limit etc.
2) Sell short 1 call option of the same stock.
Then in my account I will see long 100 shares of XYZ and 1 short (-1) call option.
Do I need to link the trades together?
If this aboove is correct then when will I get the income generated? Will it show up in my cash summary?
Thanks for answering and nice site you have!
Yes, you can but the stock first and then sell a call or you can do a Combo order which will but the stock and sell the call at the same time.
In the first case you would buy the stock at the ask price and sell the call at the bid price. For a combo order you would buy the combo at the ask price.
Read the IB help on how to submit a combo order.
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